[HDR-photo] Workflow questions

Wed Nov 11 16:44:18 EST 2009

Thanks Terry, and all who answered back. I will recheck my pictures with foliage. I will retest all of them again (converters).
I did some testing also with the K20D, recording PEF vs DNG, it looks like the processing of DNG is showing less micro details, like a tree bark.
I did the same with butterflies it seems less refined, it could be me but at 100% and 150% there is detail loss and contrast also. Since I shoot a lots of birds and wildlife, it appears that also the fur and the feathers suffers when blowing up or cropping.
I will retest this again also. I'm not out of the woods yet.

Merci et Bonne Journée

Alain Dumas
Que la nature soit avec vous.

http://www.pbase.com/graphad/
http://www.photoiseaux.com

-----Message d'origine-----
De : hdr-photo-bounces at hdr-photography.com [mailto:hdr-photo-bounces at hdr-photography.com] De la part de Terry Wyse
Envoyé : 11 novembre 2009 16:25
À : Alain Dumas
Objet : Re: [HDR-photo] Workflow questions

I've been finding, at least with my K20D, that LR2/ACR produces a  
distinct pattern, particularly in foliage, not unlike JPEG compression  
viewable at about 200-300% magnification. The Pentax-supplied raw  
convertor and the DxO Labs raw convertor produced a better result in  
my testing.

Have I switched? Nope. I'm holding out that LR3 will improve their raw  
conversion as this is on the list of improvements (I've downloaded the  
public beta but haven't had a chance to test it yet). For me, the  
workflow of LR is more important than the apparent shortcomings of  
it's raw conversion.

Regards,
Terry Wyse

Sent from Terry's iPhone

On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Alain Dumas <zadumas at gmail.com> wrote:

> I now it is off topic a bit but you open the door. So what would be  
> a better
> choice for raw conversion? As a K20D owner I sure would like to  
> know, LR2 is
> not bad but like you say the workflow is probably the best, so is  
> the speed.
> I tried different ones, Silkypix, too slow to open folders, so is  
> Capture
> One. ACDSee 3 is pretty good and fast. Raw Therapee just seems to  
> give some
> artefacts, Bible Pro seems to change too much the overall picture,  
> doesn't
> look right. LightZone is pretty good also but some final images  
> aren't up to
> LR2. Just evaluating LR3 and it is a bit better with the final  
> output but
> time will tell.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alain Dumas
>
> http://www.pbase.com/graphad/
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : hdr-photo-bounces at hdr-photography.com
> [mailto:hdr-photo-bounces at hdr-photography.com] De la part de Terry  
> Wyse
> Envoyé : 10 novembre 2009 20:56
> À : Alain Dumas
> Objet : Re: [HDR-photo] Workflow questions
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:09 PM, JP wrote:
>
>> Hi all, this is my first post.
>> I am a bit new to SLR photography and to HDR. I was wondering what
>> the best workflow is. I shoot in RAW with a D300 and just picked up
>> a Promote Control. For software, I currently have Photomatix Pro,
>> Photoshop CS4, and will be getting Lightroom2 next week.
>
> Lightroom2 = good investment. While LR2 lives a bit to be desired for
> the quality of the raw conversion (at least for my Pentax K20D), the
> workflow is what matters and LR2 is superb in that regard.
>
>
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what the best workflow is after I take the 3-9
>> bracketed photos. Before using Photomatix, do I use LR2 first? If
>> so, what should be done in LR2.
>
> Use LR2 first. Take care of the basics in LR2. Personally, I tweak the
> Exposure slider on the "0" bracket and apply the same tweak to the
> rest of the bracketed shots by using "Auto Sync" in LR....same with
> color temperature. Exposure and color temp are about all I do in LR
> before exporting to 16bpc TIFFs and then taking these in Photomatix. I
> tried raw in Photomatix for a while and the results were less than
> satisfactory....16bpc TIFFs out of LR2 works much better.
>
>>
>> Also, I have tried generating HDR's in Photomatix, but often when I
>> am satisfied with the look, the image doesn't look the same after I
>> hit Process. Any ideas why?
>
>
> Before going much further, I would invest in a good display
> calibration package. ColorEyes Display Pro and basICColor Display I
> feel are the two premier software packages. The XRite DTP94
> (officially discountinued but still available in some packages) and
> XRite EyeOne Pro spectro (RUN away from the EyeOne Display
> colorimeter!) but I've also heard good things about the DataColor
> Spyder 3. ....So get your display right before you go to far with
> relying on your display as a reference.
>
> Having said all that, Photomatix's preview sucks. My guess they are
> simply not color-managing to the display profile which is too bad.
> I'll often open the tone-mapped image in Photoshop CS4 or LR2 (while
> having it still open in Photomatix) to get a proper soft-proof of the
> image before committing to my tone-map settings.
>
> Regards,
> Terry Wyse
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To unsubscribe or edit your subscription options, please go to:
> http://www.hdr-photography.com/mailman/options/hdr-photo/zadumas%40gmail.com
> You can also unsubscribe by sending a blank email to
> hdr-photo-leave at hdr-photography.com provided you send it from the  
> email
> address that was subscribed to the list.
> In case of any issue with your subscription, please contact
> hdr-photo-owner at hdr-photography.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> To unsubscribe or edit your subscription options, please go to:
> http://www.hdr-photography.com/mailman/options/hdr-photo/terrywyse%40mac.com
> You can also unsubscribe by sending a blank email to hdr-photo-leave at hdr-photography.com 
>  provided you send it from the email address that was subscribed to  
> the list.
> In case of any issue with your subscription, please contact hdr-photo-owner at hdr-photography.com
_______________________________________________
To unsubscribe or edit your subscription options, please go to:
http://www.hdr-photography.com/mailman/options/hdr-photo/zadumas%40gmail.com
You can also unsubscribe by sending a blank email to hdr-photo-leave at hdr-photography.com provided you send it from the email address that was subscribed to the list.
In case of any issue with your subscription, please contact hdr-photo-owner at hdr-photography.com